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18 or by refusing to acknowledge the rights of any one State of the seven.Arizona has a well-established tradition of resistance to coercion. Two Presidents have tried intimidation and both failed. Theodore Roosevelt sought to club us with his big stick into joint statehood with New Mexico, but powerful and aggressive as he was his command was vehemently repudiated. President Taft endeavored to tell us what kind of a constitution we should adopt, but all his efforts came to naught. And so it will be with every other outside attempt to interfere with the will of a free and courageous people. The only way to accomplish anything with Arizona is to first acknowledge its equality with every other in the Colorado River Basin and with that as a basis to deal fairly and justly in a spirit of helpfulness and cooperation. I know that I speak for my people when I say that they will resist compulsion such as is proposed in this bill every inch of the way.Mr. SWING. I am sure that the California representation are willing to go more than half way to bring Arizona into the friendly family of States. We hope to succeed in that. In the meantime the consideration of a very urgent necessity which, as you know, is just as urgent for thousands of people on the Arizona side of the river for flood protection as it is on the California side, can be moving ahead and can be whipped into shape, and in some way, in the event of failure to arrive at an agreement that is fair and just, at least, the homes and lives of those who are not at fault may be protected. I join with you in thinking that an agreement will be reached, but this meeting is for a discussion of the bill. I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that since Doctor Mead is here, that we hear him. There are some things that I will desire to say in reply to Mr. Hayden's position when we come to a discussion of the bill.Mr. LEAVITT. I would like to ask Mr. Hayden a question: Suppose Arizona should never ratify this agreement, would the theory be that the dam never could be built?Mr. HAYDEN. The chief difficulty in Arizona is that we have been unable to obtain an understanding with California. The Governor of California at first refused to appoint any one to meet with the representatives from Arizona and Nevada to negotiate a supplemental agreement. That led many people in Arizona to at least temporarily support the position of those who are violently opposing the Colorado River compact. It was perfectly evident that, without any previous negotiations with Arizona, California hoped to secure the enactment of legislation by Congress in violation of Arizona's rights. It was proposed to take away whatever privileges Arizona might have without even talking with my State about it. I am glad to say that California has changed its attitude. Nevada has always been willing to confer. Commissioners have been appointed from the three States and they are now functioning.Mr. LEAVITT. Does it look as though an agreement will be reached ?Mr. HAYDEN. The signs are very encouraging. What, then, is the necessity for discussing the question of constructing any

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