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48tion of the northern States to the development in the southern basin. That was the urgent thing, and by making a settlement which removed that opposition we felt we had accomplished the major purpose of the negotiations. We felt that we had arrived at a feasible solution for the present generation and provided that at the end of 40 years a further plan could be arrived at finally, assigning a definite amount of water to each State.Mr. HAYDEN. The facts are that everyone in the upper basin seems to be satisfied, because they have agreed upon a compact which met the views of the four States concerned. In the lower basin, however, the attitude of the people in my State-and in speaking I express my own views-has been that the Colorado River compact should be approved, but that immediately following its approval there should be an understanding between California, Nevada, and Arizona. I would like to ask the Secretary if he can not see that the same reasons which require an understanding between the upper and lower basins also require an understanding between California and Arizona.Secretary HOOVER. I have not felt that was so essential, because I felt that California's requirement had a very positive physical limitation. We know California is practically the only State in the basin whose consumption of water could be closely estimated.Mr. HAYDEN. At the time the compact was made it was contemplated that the water should be used only for irrigation. Since that time a proposal has been made to pump water out of the Colorado River for domestic and municipal uses, which would take a still larger volume into California. You did not anticipate at that time what that use might be. The great majority of the people in Arizona feel that they have just as legitimate a right to protest against any development contemplating an improper appropriation of water as have the States in the upper basin. So far as Arizona is concerned, the Colorado River is the only place to obtain a water supply, which is not true of California.It seems to me, Mr. Secretary, that you should be willing to concede that the people of Arizona under such circumstances have a right to protest against development without a prior understanding.Secretary HOOVER. Of course I hesitate to enter into these local differences. The division of the water rights in the lower basin is, of course, difficult, because other issues than water have been introduced into it. One of the extreme difficulties in the Colorado River compact is to prevent the introduction of questions other than the water rights.Mr. SINNOTT. What was that other question you referred to?Secretary HOOVER. Power--which was not a part of the compact over water rights.Mr. HAYDEN. So long as there is pending before Congress legislation of this character, which proposes that the development shall proceed without consulting the State of Arizona, why should there be any disposition on the part of the other two States to negotiate?Secretary HOOVER. On the other hand, it would be quite possible to argue that Arizona should be in favor of this development, for the reason that she is one of the greatest beneficiaries under it.

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