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49Mr. HAYDEN. There is a strong feeling in Arizona that unless we have a thorough understanding with California and Nevada prior rights will be acquired to the use of the water, particularly in California, which will prevent development within the State of Arizona.I want to ask you, in connection with the Mexican phase of the problem, whether there are not now pending negotiations between this Government and the Government of Mexico with respect to an apportionment of water from the Colorado River?Secretary HOOVER. That is a matter I would much prefer to state to the members of the committee in confidence. I will be glad to tell you what I know about it.Mr. HAYDEN. I ask the question because I recently inquired of the Secretary of State whether such negotiations were under way, and he informed me there were not, but said that if anything was done, it would probably be initiated by yourself and the Secretary of the Interior. I have been advised by Mr. Hudspeth, who is interested in a certain matter on the Rio Grande, that an agreement had been held up by Mexico, pending an understanding regarding the Colorado River. I do not want to discuss the details, but merely desired to know whether or not any negotiations of that kind are going on.Secretary HOOVER. If you do not mind, I would rather communicate that in confidence to the committee.Mr. HAYDEN. Do you consider it necessary for legislation of this kind not only to provide for flood control and power development but also for the irrigation of a very large area of land ?Secretary HOOVER. I do consider it desirable to try to expand irrigation both in California and Arizona.Mr. HAYDEN. The feeling in Congress is not very strongly in favor of reclaiming vast areas of land. It means in this instance a million acres.Secretary HOOVER. I think the answer to that would be that it would require approximately 10 years to complete the engineering work, and another 10 years before a complete use was made of the available water to those valleys, and, therefore, before production becomes very substantial there would be a period of 15 to 20 years. In that period the population of the United States will have increased twenty or thirty million, and that production will be very badly needed. I would be the last to wave the magic wand which would bring the production on at the present moment. It will probably take 20 years to complete.Mr. SWING. The area of land brought in would be infinitesimal as compared with all of the other parts of the United States.Mr. HAYDEN. I am very glad to have your opinion on that subject, Mr. Secretary. You spoke about some arrangement to effect a contract for the purchase of power. Before this committee at various times there have appeared representatives of the municipalities in southern California, and representatives of private power companies, showing great disagreement as to what should be done with the power to be produced. Have the municipalities and power companies of that State reached an understanding at this time to divide the power for the Boulder Canyon Dam?Secretary HOOVER. I think you might enlarge the number of disputes by adding Arizona and some portions of Nevada, as well

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