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75and all we ask is that you share the water of the river with us and that you do not take all of the now unused flow. Furthermore we expect to divert a further amount of another 150,000 acre-feet per annum from other headwaters of the Colorado.Mr. HAYDEN. I am in accord with your view that the only satisfactory solution of the difficulties which exist is by means of an equitable apportionment of the waters of the Colorado River. For that reason I have consistently advocated before my people the approval of the Colorado River compact. You say that you insist upon such an agreement as a matter of self-protection to the States of the upper basin.Mr. BANNISTER. Yes, sir.Mr. HAYDEN. If you can secure that protection through an equitable apportionment you are willing to see development proceed. Is it not a bit selfish, now that you have gotten yours by the six-State arrangement, to hurry this construction and bar the State of Arizona from its benefits without waiting a reasonable time for my State to arrive at some understanding with California ?Mr. BANNISTER. Mr. Hayden, we do want to give you a reasonable time. We would give you a longer time than this--I should--if we were not confronted with this order from the Federal Power Commission. And let me call your attention to this, that it is the Arizonians who are in a hurry: It is Arizonians who are demanding these licenses from the Federal Power Commission, without giving the upper basin any guaranty whatever.Mr. HAYDEN. Well, the licenses have not been granted as yet.Mr. BANNISTER. I know they have not. The Federal Power Commission has withheld them. But it has said it would only withhold them for a reasonable length of time.Mr. HAYDEN. As a matter of fact, what you are afraid of is the appropriation of water for power and for irrigation purposes in the State of California. That is the objection you have, as I understand it.Mr. BANNISTER. We fear that in any nonratifying State.Mr. HAYDEN. Is your fear equally as strong against Arizona as itis against California Mr. BANNISTER (interposing). Our fear would be equally as strong as against power-plant appropriations if they were in Arizona if not a ratifying State.Mr. HAYDEN. You fear such appropriations of water, because of the fact that the lands in California are so situated that they can be irrigated at less cost and are, therefore, more likely to be brought into cultivation than lands in Arizona?Mr. BANNISTER. Of course, we understand that the more land there is to be irrigated the more water will be taken, and there will probably be more taken for that purpose in California than in Arizona, but the effect of power appropriations would be just as great in Arizona as in California, and, therefore, just as dangerous to us.Mr. HAYDEN. As for the situation in Arizona, I think I can speak for the people of that State. In my judgment, the sole and only reason why no progress has been made up to this time has been due to the neglect or refusal, or whatever it may be termed, of the proper authorities in the State of California to enter into

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