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Mr. LITTLE. One hundred thousand horsepower? Professor DURAND. Yes. Mr. RAKER. What is being done to develop this other 150,000 horsepower? Professor DURAND. They are proceeding as rapidly as circumstances will permit. Mr. RAKER. And expect in due course to develop it to the entire limit? Professor DURAND. Yes, sir; I am coming to that point immediately. The annual increase in power demand in the city of Los Angeles in recent years has run at about 20 per cent, so that looking forward into the future it is a 20 per cent compound interest program. Mr. LITTLE. Annually? Professor DURAND. Annually, yes, sir; for the increase of power. And what is true of Los Angeles is likewise substantially true for the other communities in the southern part of the State, as well as for the whole Southwest in a general way. At this rate of increase for the city of Los Angeles the entire capacity of its aqueduct power system will be required some time in 1925. That is to say, if Los Angeles is able to proceed promptly with the further development of these resources, it will in 1925 have reached the limit of their capacity and will immediately thereafter be in the market actively for other blocks of power. Mr. RAKER. About what is the estimated amount now required by the cities in southern California outside of Los Angeles? Professor DURAND. The demand for power in southern California outside of Los Angeles is such as to require an active working installation of something over 400,000 horsepower capacity, with, or course, a reasonable excess installed capacity to insure continuity of service. Mr. RAKER. They are now short too, are they not? Professor DURAND. There is a definite power shortage throughout the entire southern part of the State. This is especially the case in Los Angeles, and what is true of Los Angeles is, I am confident from my own contact with the situation in the southern part of the State, likewise true of other municipalities and of the entire section, and it is likewise true with regard to contiguous States and, in a general way, the entire section which would be related to the Colorado River as a source of power. In fact, what I believe to be a conservative estimate covering the probable increase in power demands during the future period of years seems to indicate that if there were no further supply in the meantime, the shortage within a period of seven or eight years, certainly by the time the Boulder Canyon Dam was completed and ready for service, would be sufficient to immediately absorb the entire amount, and by the entire amount I mean 600,000 continuous horsepower. Mr. RAKER. What is your view as to the construction of the Boulder Canyon Dam by the Government rather than by private individuals? Professor DURAND. I think the Government is the only agency which should undertake the construction of the dam. Mr. HAYDEN. IS it not true that the city of Los Angeles has not only developed power along the aqueduct but is also seeking to obtain permission to develop power sites in the Sierra Nevadas north of Tehachapi Pass, Calif., with the purpose of bringing the power down to the city of Los Angeles? Professor DURAND. I do not know to what extent the city is actively interested in the actual development of those sites but I know it has made some surveys and has estimated certain possibilities. Those possibilities, however, were not included in the figures which I gave a moment ago. Mr. HAYDEN. I also understood that there was objection on the part of those north of the Tehachapi Pass to Los Angeles invading their territory and developing the power which they would ultimately need, feeling that Los Angeles should be confined, as to its source of power, to southern California, and that the power resources of northern California be ultimately developed and used for the development of that section of the State. Professor DURAND. That is quite true. Mr. BARBOUR. I can testify to that, too, Mr. Hayden. Professor DURAND. But I should also state, as far as I can speak for the city of Los Angeles, that she would much prefer to insure in some way an adequate supply of power from the Colorado River rather than from these other sources referred to. Mr. RAKER. Has Los Angeles an application now pending for power privileges on the Colorado River, I mean, before the power commission? Professor DURAND. I think there were certain applications filed some time ago simply for the purpose of insuring what might be called a hearing for Los Angeles when the question of the allocation of power should arise or in case the Federal Government should not proceed with the undertaking of securing for the city an opportunity of developing such power for herself.

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